Account Manager
Oke untuk freshgrad
Learning curve tinggi
Pros•Learning curve oke, lingkungan askk
•Bonus minimal 3x, meal allowances
Cons•Kultur overwork, very top-down
•Rapid changes, often restrcutured
Aug 29
Marketing
bumc pada umumnys
Pros•benefitnya oke banget
•temen temennya oke bgt
Cons•banyak kerja sm mainland
•susah untuk promosi disini
Product Manager
Layoff centric
udah makin dikurangin orangnya
Pros•mnc, worldwide recognition
•technology nya bagus, framework jelas
Cons•language barrier, ekspektasi tinggi
•promosi kurang jelas, walau bonusan clear
Software Engineer
Hustle working culture
Sesuai judul working culture agak hustle. Mungkin saya kasih pros cons
Pros:
- alat penunjang kerja ok banget(laptop macbook m4 pro high spec ram 48 gb)
- ada vending machine snack/buah, sehari dapat jatah 5 kali ambil
- Performance Bonus termasuk one of the best di tech company indo
- Bisa belajar banyak hal
Cons :
- Karena banyakan kerja bareng tim mainland yang working hours mereka sampai malam jam 9 an, maka kita juga pas malam masih sering diajak meeting
- agak hustle, aturan bisa berubah tiap saat
- language barier masih sangat tinggi, banyak org mainland sana masih belum bisa bahasa inggris sehingga chance misscommunication sangat tinggi
- Jenjang karir buat orang lokal masih dipertanyakan
Pros•Banyak ilmu yang bisa didapat kerja disini
•Benefit yang termasuk kompetitif
Cons•Work life balance agak kurang untuk beberapa tim
•Komunikasi agak susah karena kendala language barier
Software Engineer
Bingung
Bingung banget
Pros•Duit makan. Boss mainland
•Duit makan, boss mainland
Cons•Ah layoff terus yeeeeee
•Layoff teruss yeeeeee
Software Engineer
Review sederhana
Pros•Cuti dan uang lembur terjamin
•Employee gathering budget cukup besar
Cons•Segala sesuatu dimonitoring, termasuk usage device
•Terkadang harus ikut meeting dengan employee dari china
Sales
Perusahaan fast paced yg sangat oke untuk menimba ilmu
Sudah 4 tahun di sini pengalaman so far so good, good colleaguea, good leader, good environment
Pros•Meal allowance (lumayan buat nambah2)
•Free flow snack (pakai vending machine)
•Asuransi full cover, ada MCU, dental, dan glasses
•Working hour ga terlalu strict
Cons•Jenjang karir agak susah tergantung orang sih tbh
•Dihantui layoff, siap siap aja
Software Engineer
BE Sofware Engineer
meal allowance, vending machine, karna pindahan dari toko, ga ada adjustment dan base salary kecil
Pros•jujur ga ada enaknya :)
•terpaksa pindah kesni dan di assign ke tim sana
Cons•ga work life balance, kerja suka sampe malem
•karna kerja sama tim mainland, sering misscom
Intern
intern tiktok
sebenernya di sini dream company dari gaji dan benefit lainnya tapi jenjang karier agak terbatas karena dominasi orang mainland
Pros•gaji cukup tinggi untuk entry/mid level
•walaupun bumc tapi cuti terjamin
•ada program wellbeing
•employee masih banyak yg muda jadi ga kolot
Cons•dominasi orang mainland
•jenjang karier terbatas
•subjektifitas leader pengaruh ke karier
Software Engineer
Gak dikasih kerjaan akhirnya L
Semenjak migrasi selesai, kerjaan makin dikit dan gk jelas arahnya, finally malah kena L
Pros•Temen" ex tokpednya supportive
•Dapat snack gratis tiap hari
Cons•Direction dari mainlandnya condong kesono
•Kerja tanpa arah dan tujuan karna ditinggal
Tech
Everything has changed
Sebelum LO teamnya enak, leadnya suportif. Goal productnya juga jelas. Setelah batch LO terakhir jadi ganti direct lead yg dari mainland.. hadehh. Kalau top management ngerasa biznya ga dibutuhkan, yaudah doesn't matter if kinerja kita bagus juga.
Direct leadnya gabisa straightforward dan reassure timnya dalam masa2 uncertain gini. Klo leadnya gada kepentingan, anak2nya gada di nudge dluan. Bikin work jd ga nyaman...
That being said, secara benefit companynya lumayan dan quite fair among its sub-entities
Pros•Benefit kantor lumayan dan fair
•Office strategis, fasilitasnya bagus (monitor, desk, chair)
•Masih bisa WLB tergantung timnya
Cons•Lead gabisa straightforward
•Career progression tida jelas
•Suasana kerja jd kurang mendukung
Product
Oke, benefit jg sesuai tp harus bisa keep up
Menurut gua benefit decent dan challenge-nya ada, skill managing orangnya harus ok bgt
Pros•temen yg dari tokped oke bgt
•3x annual bonus even performance biasa aja
Cons•tiap quarter atau half year kadang reorg wk
•pace kerja ga ada nyantai2nya broo
Software Engineer
Tokopedia
Tidak ada jenjang karir semenjak si caplok bytedance
Pros•Temennya lumayan oke.
•Tech stack banyak variasi
Cons•Gak jelass jenjang karirnya
•Atasan mikirin diri sendiri
Senior Product Manager
Chaotic Tokopedia integration, lack of leadership
Joining TTS after Tokopedia integration and handling both TTS and Tokopedia platform as PM. Integration is pretty much one sided and instructions are clear. Just follow whatever TTS is currently doing and enable seller / buyer from Toko to use it. In terms of features, most of Tokopedia exclusive features are being deprecated despite its more superior than TTS.
In TTS, no vision or guidance from leadership. Just need to follow whatever provided by Shopee and it’s all good. Leadership prefer employee that can speak mandarin, they will listen to they more (even though they are more stupid sometimes) and they will be safe from getting M- in performance appraisal.
Your stakeholders also changed often since there will be a restructuring few times within the same quarter and mostly they cannot speak english. Documentations are scattered and figma never get updated with latest version.
Pros•Meet expectation can get bonus 3x
•Friendly colleagues and they willing to help
Cons•Promotion is non existent. Make sure your offer is good
•Changes of direction from leadership within days
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Strategy
Sunset tokopaedi
Kirain awalnya bisa growth, taunya butuh license aja. Once udah dapet, tokopaedi dibius pelan pelan ;(
Pros•Exposure ke top global company
•Competitive salary and bonus
Cons•Ceiling is very short, almost no promotion
•Lay off for Indo team is common
Software Engineer
Tokopedia
Bukan seperti yang dulu lagi
Pros•Belajar untuk nambah pengalaman
•Teman teman satu team supportive
Cons•No more jenjang karir
•Setiap quarter di hantuin isu layoff
Account Manager
Okay-ish despite the policy is still very much centralized
Seperti tech comp pada umumnya yah, fast paced, kebijakan berubah2 secepat kilat, masih mencari2 best practice. Walaupun lebih advance kl bicara tentang teknologinya in comparison with oren & albab
Pros•Ngepush u utk terus lebi baik (ofkors)
•Helpful colleagues (at least to me)
Cons•Onboarding processnya kureng bgt, serasa diceburin
•Terlalu centralized, jadi susah buat beneran ngerti isu real
Marketing Campaign
was good before
Pros•jam masuk kantor flexible
•temen-temen nakamanya🫶
Cons•bad management, bad leader
•lumayam sering lembur sampe jam 2 pagi
Strategy & Special Projects
Tempat yg ok buat settle down, but not for progression
Hmmmm where do I start ya?
Ok let's start with the super summary first, if you are looking for advancement or career progression / nambahin portfolio, forget about it, even if you can speak mandarin, kalo paspor lo bukan People Republic of China, lo gak akan didenger.
Rasisme between orang CN vs ID dsini sangat terasa kesenjangannya, orang kita dianggep bodoh disini dan gak mau kerja keras. Karena kultur mereka, meskipun gak separah KR/JP company, ya memang masih lebih melihat gestur daripada actual performance, hal ini simply dikarenakan scope yg diberikan kepada orang ID memang sangat technical. Mereka lebih memvalue orang yg pulang jam 9/10 malam (meskipun dateng siang) daripada yg datang dan pulang sesuai working hours.
Another gesture over output sign yg mereka sangat value adalah, jika lo lagi cuti, lo tetep expected untuk hadir di meeting yg sama bos bos. simply because they are doing that, and you are expected to do that as well. Nggak, mereka gak akan directly nyuruh lo, tp mereka akan gaslight lo spy lo merasa bersalah gak attend the meeting, even if kehadiran lo gak penting sama sekali. Tbh, in my prev company, gue udah agak biasa kerja 70-75h / wk, but it comes with a very make sense reason, projectnya memang project besar & super strategic. But here, even if you are only doing the execution, attending meeting during leave & working long hours without clear reason is (in a way) expected
Kenapa hal itu bisa kejadian? karena simpel, semua strategy & think tank sudah diberikan ke strategy team di CN sana yg isinya orang2 sangat jenius, jadinya, di local level, hanya di expect untuk utak atik backend aja, that's why in terms of workload, menurut gue sangat manageable, namun career progression nya is near zero.
apakah company ini culture nya bagus? definitely not. but duitnya sangat banyak & fasilitas nya sangat nyaman, so, take your own risk kalau mau join ke BD, apalagi kalau udah terbiasa menjadi orang yg ABS, jujur surviving disini akan lebih mudah
Software Engineer
Okelah
Semenjak masuk bytedance karena tokped dibeli tiktok ada penambahan kesulitan komunikasi terutama sama orang orang mainland. Benefit so so, tapi ada perasaan takut kena minerva. PA result kurang fair
Pros•Dapet pinjeman laptop
•Ada vending machine 5/hari
•Coffee machine di pantry
•Meal allowance perbulan
•Annual bonus after PA
Cons•Komunikasi sama mainland sulit
•Dihantui PIP setiap hari
Senior Data Analyst
The benefit barely makes it worth it
Not bad, just ok, terselamatkan dengan compensation package yang lumayan ok and exposure to intl team. But the pace is barely tolerable. Office politics as usual, nothing too out of line
Pros•Benefits above average compared to other e commerce
•International team exposure
Cons•Pace is barely tolerable
•Very top down except in some areas
Product Manager
Good so far, PA agak gak fair
sering jadi tumbal
Pros•global presence tapi ya gitu
•wlb di bbrp team, sangat bergantung sm atasan
Cons•salary jauh sama orang sana tp target sama
•culturenya mulai ilang
Software Engineer
Tokped perspective
Pros•knowledge opportunity cukup ok karena banyak yg jago2
•Kalo dapet tim yg enak, environment kerja sgt ok
Cons•no yearly increment (kecuali promote?)
•different work culture dgn mainland, kadang bikin wlb ancur